Other right-of-center blogs have trumpeted the defeat of the rescue legislation.
You won’t find that opinion in this post. It was a terrible, awful bill. But this is a terrible, awful situation. That vote was nothing to celebrate.
In the end, passing a short-term purity test on conservative principles will prove useless if the lack of rescue legislation torpedoes the market, sinks the economy into a deep recession or even depression, and causes a sharp turn toward interventionism and statism in the United States regardless of the party that is in power after November.
The last time that the country made that turn, in the 1930s, it was 1980 before it turned back. In that sense, a vote by conservatives against this legislation was a case of cutting off their nose to spite their face.
Further, we’re not talking about a limited or isolated situation here. A collapse of credit markets and banks in the United States will inevitably spread overseas. Already, European banks are failing too.
The collapse of American credit markets will rapidly spread to global credit markets, and we will see the entire world economy freeze up. Development and growth will halt. The global economy will contract. Unemployment will skyrocket. Not just here, but in developing countries as well.
We now face a situation that will undermine if not destroy the global free market system created after the end of the Cold War.
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If you could go back in history to the fall of 1929 and spend the 1929 equivalent of $700 billion to prevent the Great Depression, would you do it?
If you had to set aside your principles to prevent the Second World War and the rise of Adolf Hitler, prevent the unemployment of one American worker in three, and prevent untold hardship on people worldwide, would you do it?
Would you try, even if you knew that the rescue plan might not work, but that there was a chance (of unknown probability) that it would?
There are no easy answers here, whether to those questions or others more oriented to the present day, which is why so many politicians take comfort in their native ideology (like Mike Sodrel). There’s a certain noble aspiration and sense of reason there.
Others (like Baron Hill), less concerned with reason or personal beliefs, take solace in cravenly matching their vote to mere political expediency. There’s nothing noble there, and the only reason is the cold calculation of holding on to power regardless of broader consequence.
If you think the credit market “needs” a “bailout” of some kind, then you really don’t understand what truly free market enterprise really is. Your kind is what’s wrong with our GOP today. Turn over a new leaf and begin the on the road to true republican principles of economics: http://mises.org/
Here’s some more help for you to improve your economic understanding. Melissa has this right: http://hoosiersforfairtaxation.blogspot.com/2008/09/america-saved-while-stock-market-falls.html
It’s all well and good to have principles and to stick to them through thick and thin. I can’t fault people that have that sort of faith (and, really, that’s what we are talking about here). I don’t fault such individuals in my post; I do fault those who voted no out of an utter absence of conviction or principle of any kind other than the naked quest for reelection.
But I also think that blindly assuming the market will make it all right on its own is a bit much. We don’t know that the rescue bill will work. We don’t know if any of the alternatives will work. We don’t know, if the credit market freezes up, how long it will take for it to set itself to rights again and recover if we do nothing.
As I noted above, if holding to your ideology is going to deal it a long-term setback, then at least acknowledge that possibility does exist and don’t wail when it happens. From the last large-scale credit market collapse to the election of a free-market conservative President were five decades; six and a half if you want to think about Congress.
That’s a long period of government interventionism and a long time in the wilderness. And a lot of the broader consequences that happened in the interim (and in large measure because of that market implosion) were not pretty.
In my mind I have been thinking of an Obama Presidency as a second Carter Presidency. Given the current situation, it could be more of a second FDR (for me, that is an insult) or a second Wilson (insult as well) Presidency. The “opportunity” is present to nationalize a lot of stuff right now which is why we must be vigilant right now. My concern is that this bill was moving us to a nationalized banking system.
Your analysis is that the Depression caused the turn to interventionism and statism. But what happened is that political leaders used the Depression as a “war” to rationalize interventionism and statism. That is precisely what is going on with the bill that was voted down yesterday.
And you honestly think it won’t be much, much worse in the longer term on that score if the market doesn’t shortly right itself without the legislation passing?
This situation is nothing like the depression. The only similarity is that markets are jittery and people are taking money out of their banks.
The FDIC is doing their job, actually saving vital bank assets and accounts. They will have many more banks to reorganize.
The Fed is doing their job, investing where possible, keeping a handle on inflation and cutting rates when possible.
The President and Treasury tried to stretch too far and grab power not intended for them. House Republicans and Democrats agreed on this, and capped the power grab.
Your options are mostly-socialist legislation or fear of really socialist solutions later. I think that is a false set of options. There DOES need to action. This action was bad.
Conservatives need to be working very hard to put forward market based options. They certainly have several ideas at the RSC. Can they get it passed? I don’t know.
I have NEVER known of good legislation passed in a panic. The Paulson legislation was exactly that.
In my mind I have been thinking of an Obama Presidency as a second Carter Presidency. Given the current situation, it could be more of a second FDR (for me, that is an insult) or a second Wilson (insult as well) Presidency.
I’ve been thinking Obama may be another Wilson for about a month, myself. He ran a college, and Obama taught in one. It’s hard to figure how pre-FDR presidents would fare in today’s world.
Wilson had his problems, and his health didn’t help things, but I suspect that McCain would be another Grant: a great man but a terrible president.
I have NEVER known of good legislation passed in a panic. The Paulson legislation was exactly that.
We don’t know, if the credit market freezes up, how long it will take for it to set itself to rights again and recover if we do nothing.
You’re saying “if”? The country’s largest Chevy dealership, which was moving several billion dollars of cars annually, just closed shop last week, because they lost their floor plan and couldn’t get another one.
People are wondering if their ATM cards will work next week. Actually, they should be worrying that their employer might go out of business next week.
Yes, I opposed the bailout as it stood, but we need to do something this week, and whatever we do, it’s going to be a hold-your-nose bill.
If we do nothing now, the House and Senate will pass a bunch of really stupid legislation in January. The last time we had a depression, that’s what happened, and economists say that made the depression much deeper and longer. This medicine might be bitter, but it’s better than the alternative.
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