Memo to Obama: You’re No Reagan
Alas, with many conservatives still pondering who they should support, Huckabee (this author supports him), Romney (he’s with us now…we think), McCain (how many bills can you name that start with “McCain” and end with some liberal senator’s name?) and Rudy (tough on his wives and crime), maybe they have another choice. You see, sometimes you’ve got to look outside of the box of partisianship and find a solution.
There’s another candidate out there who’s talking about Ronald Reagan. His name? Barak Hussian Obama and he’s trying to draw some paralleles between himself and the greatest conservative of modern history. Memo to Barak: You’re no Ronald Reagan.
Check out this interesting article herefrom a former Reagan staffer on the differences between Obama and Reagan.
Note: I just heard Sean Hannity hint at supporting Romney. According to Hannity this is a “two man race” and he hinted with a caller on the line that Romney may be the guy to support. No direct endorsement, but an interesting development.








January 29th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I’m personally not fond of talk radio anymore. I used to be, but I outgrew that along with dial-up. I really only listened to Rush Limbaugh, but I never really got into him. I always liked what he had to say and I loved his delivery. For some reason Sean was always my least favorite. I think part of the reason was I never liked the way he handled callers. He always let them hang on for way too long.
As for Huckabee, I may agree with him on most social issues, but that’s one guy who should never be allowed to even be close the White House. The last thing we need is another G. Dub in the White House and that’s exactly how Huckabee would govern. Just look at how he governed in Arkansas.
Then again, none of the Republicans left should be allowed to even be close to the White House, not just Huckabee.
Man, this year sucks!
January 29th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Any of the Republican candidates (wow, even McCain) would be better than any of the Democrats.
January 29th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
One should never be that pragmatic with their vote. Even in this years election.
January 29th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
I’m just pointing out that when we go to vote in the general election we need to keep the long-term goal in mind and the overall big picture.
Some have pledged to “never vote for ____ ” and that’s not good. We need to make our views known during the primary, and I think people that know me and readers of this blog know that I don’t hesitate to make my views known and stick to principles, but in the end we’ve got some big issues on the line and everyone one of those issues the Democrats are not the kind fo people that we want in the White House. We may not agree with all of the Republicans, but each of them is more right in some area than the other side’s candidates.
January 29th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Understandable. Personally, over the years of my life’s continuing education in this world, has began leading to believe that we can’t vote Republican just because we don’t want a Democrat in the White House. I understand long-term picture and all, but had it not been Jimmy Carter in 1976, we may not have had Ronald Reagan in 1980. Wrap your head around that!
I know it may seem like I’m busting your chops, but what I try to provoke is really thinking through why you vote the way you do (you being the “general” you). I got sick and tire of “anybody but ___”. It’s a tired and outdated mode of voting that has proven it’s worthlessness. True accountability begins at the ballot box and sometime thinking outside the Republican box is the best thing one can do for one’s political soul….as long as you don’t vote for a Democrat! Haha!!
January 29th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Josh, I’ve already noted in various private political conversations that Obama or Edwards (I’m just not sure if Hillary could actually win, but never underestimate) could actually win and that might not be a bad thing. Like you said, if it hadn’t been for Mr. Carter we would never have had Reagan.
However, I’m not going to just say, “oh, well, let’s just give it up and let four years go by and then we’ll get our guy in there.” I sincerely believe the issues on the line are important and that the Republican presidential candidates are generally better than the Democratic counterparts.
I have no problem with thinking outside of the Republican Box (though why do you title your blog “Josh in a box” if you’re trying to think outside of the box?
) but for better or worse it’s been a two party system in presidential politics for a long time (even TR could only come in 2nd when he ran as a Bull Moose in 1912).
On the local level things are different, it is usually easier for the grassroots to take fire and third party candidates to run and win.
January 29th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
One thing I forgot to mention was that I would support Sen. Zel Miller (D) over some of my fellow Party members. E.G.: John McCain, Olympia Snowe, or Lincoln Chaffee (who’s moderation still didn’t save his hide come election time). There may be some Democrats out there that I could support in national politics.
There is a disconnect between your local Democratic voters and you’re national party types with MoveOn.org. A lot of blue collar Dems are very solid and very patriotic Americans and show that the Republican party doesn’t have a lock on good people.
January 29th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
I would never advocate bailing on voting in any election. I’m just saying that as voters, especially those who claim the Christian faith, we need to be very careful in how we cast our vote. Sometimes that may include looking outside the Republican view of things, even on a national level. Probably more so on a national level.
As as for “Josh in a Box”, I know it’s corny, but it’s what was written on my birth announcement almost all of 30 years ago. My wife suggested it’s what I should name my blog, I liked it, so I went with it. And “Josh in a Box” was born….all over again.
January 29th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Humorous tale on the story of your blog.
I agree that voters of principle need to vote based on what we believe in and not a party as a whole. But there are also those cases in which not voting for the “lesser of two evils” means getting the evilist of evils (Note: For the record I’m not calling Democrats the “evilist of evils” I’m just using that terminology as an example, a hypothetical).
To throw this out there, with your talk of “thinking outside the Republican box” would you support say, a Rick Santorum third party (conservative) bid against a Mitt Romney (R) and Hillary Clinton (D) race?
I’ve not concluded my stance on that, so I’m interested in knowing your thoughts.
Would you agree that A) Bloomberg is too liberal to support and B) that libertarian and other “third” parties are generally non-starters and a waste of a national vote?
It’s one thing, I think, if the movement is built around a candidate who has identified himself to an extent on the national stage. It is another to try and build something from nothing, or almost nothing.
January 29th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Good article here on how we need to focus on defeating Clinton or Obama and not get lost in a lot of nasty charges back and forth with the end result being we promise to support a specific candidate regardless of whether or not he should win:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzBkNDQ4ZDc3NDUzYzgxZGQ3NDMxYjU0YTgxNTM3ODM=
January 29th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
“As as for “Josh in a Box”, I know it’s corny, but it’s what was written on my birth announcement almost all of 30 years ago.”
“Josh in a Box” was your birth announcement? I’m afraid to ask in a family friendly forum such as this [note to self: mind out of gutter]
January 29th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Ah gees, Mike! I can honestly say that had never crossed my mind. Your comment did make me laugh though.
January 29th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
There are two different battles going on here. The obvious one is for the President of the United States. I believe that any of the candidates left in (and some who have left the race) are ALL electable–both Republican and Democrat. I hate to hear discussions of who to support based on who can beat Hillary et al. It is important that we make our best effort to beat whoever the Democrat is in November.
But there is a second battle. That is the battle for the future of the Republican party. It is a separate battle, but it is just as important as the first. Are we going to become populist? Are we going to return to Reagan conservatism? Are we going to reject social conservatism, but retain fiscal and defense? Are we just going to become Democrats of the 70s and 80s?
I was hoping that we were going to nominate a candidate who would win both battles. I do not think that is possible now.
So which battle do I want to win? Given my preference, I would choose winning the Republican party since a majority can be won again later. But I still have hopes that we can win the election and still win the Republican party, though it will not be through the President. Other leaders will have to rise through the party.
January 30th, 2008 at 8:29 am
“Mr. Sikma, you are no Ronald Reagan.” In my opinion Reagan, divorced and not a church-goer, played social conservatives like a fiddle. And they him. But Reagan was not a cowardly right-wing panderer like Romney. While Reagan pulled to together a coalition INCLUDING the religious right, he was not OF the religious right.
From other writers: “In 1978, for example, Reagan vigorously opposed a California ballot initiative sponsored by religious conservatives that would have barred homosexuals from teaching in the public schools. The timing is significant because he was then preparing to run for president, a race in which he would need the support of conservatives and moderates very uncomfortable with homosexual teachers. As Cannon puts it, Reagan was “well aware that there were those who wanted him to duck the issue” but nevertheless “chose to state his convictions.”
Reagan penned an op-ed against the so-called Briggs Initiative in which he wrote, “Whatever else it is, homosexuality is not a contagious disease like the measles. Prevailing scientific opinion is that an individual’s sexuality is determined at a very early age and that a child’s teachers do not really influence this.” This was a remarkably progressive thing for a politician, especially a conservative one about to run for president, to say in 1978. The Briggs Initiative was overwhelmingly defeated. Its sponsors blamed Reagan for the defeat.”
I voted Reagan in his second run (was too young to in his first) and supported his stance against the Soviet Union. Walking the Princeton campus in an Air Force ROTC uniform, even receiving some bristling hostility from some faculty (and considerable support from others), I agreed completely with his assessment of the Soviet Union as an evil empire and his move to reduce government’s growth and interference in personal lives.
The brand of conservatism social conservative leadership represents today is quite the opposite, promoting an expansive government role in the private lives of citizens and a restriction of the freedom that was the American ideal. Ronald Reagan was a proponent of individual freedom and distrustful of government. The leaders of the Social conservative movement today, on the other hand, seek to leverage government power over the consciences of others.
January 30th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Chris, thanks for the heads up, but I never equated myself to Reagan.
January 30th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
“Any of the Republican candidates (wow, even McCain) would be better than any of the Democrats.”
Gotta love blind partisanship. After all, it has worked so well for us thus far.
Chris, well-said and absolutely correct.
January 30th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Guys, this isn’t blind partisanship. I made that decision after sitting down and reviewing the various individual candidates on both sides of the aisle. If I had found in my survey that one particular Democratic candidate stood out as being better, more conservative, than John McCain (or any other Republican) I would not have issued the line that any of our Republican candidates are better than any of the Democratic candidates.
January 30th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Brian,
I think what we’re all trying to say is, to vote for a Republican, no matter where they stand up on ideological grounds, if you’re doing it because it’s either the lesser of two evils or because he’s better than Hillary, as long as you’re pulling the Republican lever, is considered blind partisanship.
Would you ever consider voting for anybody who doesn’t have an “R” next to his name? Maybe you would. I don’t think I’ve talked to you enough about that to know. But in my mind, and I believe in the minds of Chris and Jacob (correct me if I’m wrong here guys), it comes down to a comment I left on another post:
It’s not that we don’t want Republicans in the White House or controlling both chambers of Congress. Some of us may, but more importantly we want a country that’s on the right track and sometimes that means voting against, or not voting for, Republicans in the hopes that it makes the party and the country stronger. And that ideology carries down the whole ticket. I believe you would agree with that. Correct?
January 30th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Josh,
You and I and the other commenters on this post may have been talking past each other. I tried to clarify this in the first half of this comment section discussion but perhaps I failed.
Yes, I would consider voting for someone without an “R” behind their name. Sometimes you’ve got to look at the bigger picture and do what is in the best interest of the locality, state, or country. What I’m saying about the Republican candidates applies to Republican presidential candidates for this cycle. I’m not saying this is some sort of general rule that should be invariably followed every election cycle.
After looking at the candidates this cycle, and looking at the issues this cycle, I’ve concluded that every Republican presidential candidate (Ron Paul is *ahem* problematic) is overall better than any candidate put forward by the Democrats. Interestingly enough, perhaps the most problematic Republican candidate on ideological grounds for me, Rudy, is rumored to be leaving the race very sooon.
In the end I think we’re probably in a lot of agreement here. The misunderstanding seems to have arisen out of an extrapolation of my statements pertaining to this election and my failure to clarify the limits on what I said.
January 30th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I’m with you, Josh.
By the way, a lot of Republicans who favor a more limited role for government are perfectly comfortable with government divided between the two parties, as it places a check on controlling or self-serving tendencies that can too easily arise from either party.
To repeat Lord Acton, power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. We were witness to the same when Republicans were in charge of both branches of the legislature, both houses of Congress, the Governor’s office and the Presidency. That proved as great an environment for corruption and as great a threat to individual liberty as any.
(Most recently, in my opinion, the only worthy Republican leadership in that whole lot was Governor Daniels, with a nod toward some U.S. Senate Republicans, including Senator Lugar.)
January 30th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
While we’re at it, Brian, I think unified social conservative control of the country would generally produce as great a threat to American traditions of liberty as that posed by the extreme left, which fortunately has virtually ceased to exist. I can imagine no other group on the American scene that would be as religiously repressive (that is, leverage government to purvey one religious view at the expense of all others) or as intrusive into the lives of citizens.
I actually understood what you were saying, Brian. I don’t think social conservatives are mindless Republican partisans. Instead, I think they are using the Republican Party to pursue an agenda which they would be just as happy to see any other party pursue. The tendency of social conservative leadership to encourage their constituency to stay home when Republican moderates are running, or when a Republican takes an approach consistent with what the majority of Aemricans believe, has made that very clear over the years.
January 30th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
I see where you’re coming from Brian. I was talking about this election, but also the grand scheme of things all at the same time. I don’t think I made myself very clear in that either.
January 30th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Chris,
I remember writing a post on my personal blog (can’t find it now) a couple of years ago advocating the idea of a Congress divided. I believe I wrote it in response to the growing amount of corruption in Republican controlled government and how it mirrored the Democrats corruption when they control government in the early 90’s.
I just can’t decide which is a better chamber to control the House or Senate. I guess lean more towards the Senate for judicial reasons.