Comments on: Baron’s Long Nightmare Has Only Begun http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/ HoosierAccess.com Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:51:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: rightwingprof http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/#comment-3225 rightwingprof Thu, 08 May 2008 18:19:49 +0000 http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/#comment-3225 Hippie Gretchen got 31% of the vote? God, there's why I do NOT miss Bloomington. And is the HT free now? Hippie Gretchen got 31% of the vote? God, there’s why I do NOT miss Bloomington. And is the HT free now?

]]> By: Joel Harris http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/#comment-3216 Joel Harris Thu, 08 May 2008 13:39:51 +0000 http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/#comment-3216 The biggest protection against operation chaos is for strong slates of candidates--ideally on both sides. It is only because McCain was a done deal enabled Operation Chaos to happen. It was also made possible because the Dems were fairly evenly divided which means that if you can bring about a 1% swing in the votes, you have made a big difference. Indiana is a great example. It is probably true that without Operation Chaos, Obama would have won the primary here. In Texas, it probably did not decide the winner, but it did make the margin look much better. But I think Operation Chaos type activities happen quite a bit. There were a lot of Dems that switched over in New Hampshire and voted for McCain. Not as much noise was made about it, but it certainly happened. I think the same thing happened in Michigan. The biggest protection against operation chaos is for strong slates of candidates–ideally on both sides. It is only because McCain was a done deal enabled Operation Chaos to happen. It was also made possible because the Dems were fairly evenly divided which means that if you can bring about a 1% swing in the votes, you have made a big difference. Indiana is a great example. It is probably true that without Operation Chaos, Obama would have won the primary here. In Texas, it probably did not decide the winner, but it did make the margin look much better.

But I think Operation Chaos type activities happen quite a bit. There were a lot of Dems that switched over in New Hampshire and voted for McCain. Not as much noise was made about it, but it certainly happened. I think the same thing happened in Michigan.

]]> By: dave http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/#comment-3213 dave Thu, 08 May 2008 04:26:58 +0000 http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/#comment-3213 I thought those running against Hill had backing off some of the more left wing elements of party (Moveon etc)? I always assumed this is why he backed Obama as well I thought those running against Hill had backing off some of the more left wing elements of party (Moveon etc)? I always assumed this is why he backed Obama as well

]]> By: ericschansberg http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/#comment-3204 ericschansberg Wed, 07 May 2008 20:24:10 +0000 http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/#comment-3204 I'm a little surprised that there aren't (more) orchestrated attempts by one or both major parties to do an "operation chaos" with a wider variety of contests? In any case, are there good reasons against closed primaries-- and ideally, having each party take care of their own business on their own dime and time? I’m a little surprised that there aren’t (more) orchestrated attempts by one or both major parties to do an “operation chaos” with a wider variety of contests?

In any case, are there good reasons against closed primaries– and ideally, having each party take care of their own business on their own dime and time?

]]> By: Scott http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/#comment-3203 Scott Wed, 07 May 2008 19:16:36 +0000 http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/#comment-3203 I can't speak for the by-precinct specifics of other counties, obviously, but the greatest proportions of undervotes in Harrison County were not in the Republican precincts, but in the Democrat and swing ones. Baron's primary challengers did best in traditonal GOP strongholds. I can’t speak for the by-precinct specifics of other counties, obviously, but the greatest proportions of undervotes in Harrison County were not in the Republican precincts, but in the Democrat and swing ones. Baron’s primary challengers did best in traditonal GOP strongholds.

]]> By: Joel Harris http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/#comment-3201 Joel Harris Wed, 07 May 2008 17:46:32 +0000 http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/07/barons-long-nightmare-has-only-begun/#comment-3201 Many of the undervotes are probably Operation Chaos voters who would not select Hill in the general... Many of the undervotes are probably Operation Chaos voters who would not select Hill in the general…

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