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		<title>By: labechtel</title>
		<link>http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/14/the-ag-race-rumor-has-it/#comment-3339</link>
		<dc:creator>labechtel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 02:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am truly shocked that people do not realize what is going on with this Costas promotion. This is all about getting big Indiana law firms to run our state again. The State party knows that Steve Carter has run the office as an independent...the way the office is supposed to be run. Zoeller, would do the same.

Costas was "recruited" by people like Bill Osterle, etc just for this purpose.

I don't think a lot of you out there know Greg Zoeller's wealth of experience. He has served as Carter's Chief Deputy for the past 7 years. Prior to that he was President of the World Trade Association in Indiana. Prior to that he served with Dan Quayle when he was Indiana's Senator and our Nation's Vice President. Bottom line: Greg Zoeller has been a supporting and active Republican, serving the Citizens of Indiana for over 20 years. It is his turn for the party to show him a bit of loyalty back. This is his job and it is his time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am truly shocked that people do not realize what is going on with this Costas promotion. This is all about getting big Indiana law firms to run our state again. The State party knows that Steve Carter has run the office as an independent&#8230;the way the office is supposed to be run. Zoeller, would do the same.</p>
<p>Costas was &#8220;recruited&#8221; by people like Bill Osterle, etc just for this purpose.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think a lot of you out there know Greg Zoeller&#8217;s wealth of experience. He has served as Carter&#8217;s Chief Deputy for the past 7 years. Prior to that he was President of the World Trade Association in Indiana. Prior to that he served with Dan Quayle when he was Indiana&#8217;s Senator and our Nation&#8217;s Vice President. Bottom line: Greg Zoeller has been a supporting and active Republican, serving the Citizens of Indiana for over 20 years. It is his turn for the party to show him a bit of loyalty back. This is his job and it is his time.</p>
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		<title>By: daltonsbriefs</title>
		<link>http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/14/the-ag-race-rumor-has-it/#comment-3322</link>
		<dc:creator>daltonsbriefs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the support of Mayor Jon Costas ... and the history lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the support of Mayor Jon Costas &#8230; and the history lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: howardcountychairman</title>
		<link>http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/14/the-ag-race-rumor-has-it/#comment-3315</link>
		<dc:creator>howardcountychairman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I think we need a little historical perspective on the whole convention process.  How did we get to this point?  My first convention was in 1972.  I was the first elected 18 year old in Indiana.  My office?  Delegate to the Republican State Convention.  

If my memory serves me there were three or four contenders for Governor that year.  This was the final Gubernatorial candidate selected this way.  The process was extremely exciting.  Every week for about eight weeks there were one or two cocktail parties in our county where a prospective candidate for Governor, Lt. Governor and other state wide offices would appear, schmooze the locals and work for votes.  Deals were made prior to the convention by county chairmen and district chairmen, trading delegate votes like baseball cards.  I remember the 1972 convention very well.  Heck, it was the first time that this poor boy from Kokomo had ever tasted caviar, courtesy of Bob Orr's hospitality suite.

Our county chairman called a caucus of our delegates and told us that we were going to vote for Judge Sharp for Governor.  I stood up and asked why.  I was a Bowen man then, now and forever!  In front of our delegation our chairman told us that he had promised the Hamilton County chairman four years earlier, when Richard Roudebush retired from Congress, that if Hamilton County would back Bud Hillis from our county, then we would owe them a favor when they called for it.  The 1972 convention was payback time.  Being 18 and in no mood to be reasonable I declared loudly, "You made the deal, you vote for Sharp!  I'm voting for Bowen and you can't stop me."  Well, the caucus quickly unravelled.  Eventually Howard County went for Bowen by a 2:1 margin.  It was then that I learned the true power of a county chairman.

Well, our state finally decided that a direct primary would be the best way to select a Governor.  However, we couldn't trust the voters with selecting the balance of the team.  After all, you could end up with a Lt. Governor who had polar viewpoints on just about every subject.  That's why all of the other state wide offices remained in the state convention.  Governor candidates being as they are and state party's being as they are, they quickly realized that it was politically sound and cost effective to have most positions wrapped up well before the convention actually started.  With the exception of a couple of conventions, notably 1992, there has been little excitement or intrigue.  Conventions have sunk to the status of a pep rally.  Not exactly the type of rallying cry to get someone to go down to the court house, declare for delegate, pay $80, travel all the way to Indianapolis and miss work for a day.  This is why there is a huge number of ballot vacancies and the chairman has regained a huge amount of power through his ability to fill delegate vacancies.  Ironic.

Which brings me back to 2008.  I believe that a contested race for Attorney General is healthy.  It has put meaning back into the convention.  It is interesting.  It makes us think, organize and work for it.  Yes, I have endorsed Jon Costas.  He will make a great AG.  The Governor nor any of his staff or campaign staff have strong armed or lobbied me.  I told both Greg Zoeller and Jon Costas from the beginning that I would remain neutral unless Governor Daniels openly endorsed a candidate.  Last week, when Governor Daniels did just that, I enthusiastically endorsed Jon Costas.  I did it because Jon Costas will be great AG and the Governor wants him on the ticket for geographical balance.  I told Jon Costas that I was sure that I could deliver one vote at least.  I trust that the other 33 delegates from Howard County will view his candidacy favorably.

I would humbly suggest that everyone take a deep breath and enjoy this experience of a contested convention.  It should be fun and our Party can become stronger because of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I think we need a little historical perspective on the whole convention process.  How did we get to this point?  My first convention was in 1972.  I was the first elected 18 year old in Indiana.  My office?  Delegate to the Republican State Convention.  </p>
<p>If my memory serves me there were three or four contenders for Governor that year.  This was the final Gubernatorial candidate selected this way.  The process was extremely exciting.  Every week for about eight weeks there were one or two cocktail parties in our county where a prospective candidate for Governor, Lt. Governor and other state wide offices would appear, schmooze the locals and work for votes.  Deals were made prior to the convention by county chairmen and district chairmen, trading delegate votes like baseball cards.  I remember the 1972 convention very well.  Heck, it was the first time that this poor boy from Kokomo had ever tasted caviar, courtesy of Bob Orr&#8217;s hospitality suite.</p>
<p>Our county chairman called a caucus of our delegates and told us that we were going to vote for Judge Sharp for Governor.  I stood up and asked why.  I was a Bowen man then, now and forever!  In front of our delegation our chairman told us that he had promised the Hamilton County chairman four years earlier, when Richard Roudebush retired from Congress, that if Hamilton County would back Bud Hillis from our county, then we would owe them a favor when they called for it.  The 1972 convention was payback time.  Being 18 and in no mood to be reasonable I declared loudly, &#8220;You made the deal, you vote for Sharp!  I&#8217;m voting for Bowen and you can&#8217;t stop me.&#8221;  Well, the caucus quickly unravelled.  Eventually Howard County went for Bowen by a 2:1 margin.  It was then that I learned the true power of a county chairman.</p>
<p>Well, our state finally decided that a direct primary would be the best way to select a Governor.  However, we couldn&#8217;t trust the voters with selecting the balance of the team.  After all, you could end up with a Lt. Governor who had polar viewpoints on just about every subject.  That&#8217;s why all of the other state wide offices remained in the state convention.  Governor candidates being as they are and state party&#8217;s being as they are, they quickly realized that it was politically sound and cost effective to have most positions wrapped up well before the convention actually started.  With the exception of a couple of conventions, notably 1992, there has been little excitement or intrigue.  Conventions have sunk to the status of a pep rally.  Not exactly the type of rallying cry to get someone to go down to the court house, declare for delegate, pay $80, travel all the way to Indianapolis and miss work for a day.  This is why there is a huge number of ballot vacancies and the chairman has regained a huge amount of power through his ability to fill delegate vacancies.  Ironic.</p>
<p>Which brings me back to 2008.  I believe that a contested race for Attorney General is healthy.  It has put meaning back into the convention.  It is interesting.  It makes us think, organize and work for it.  Yes, I have endorsed Jon Costas.  He will make a great AG.  The Governor nor any of his staff or campaign staff have strong armed or lobbied me.  I told both Greg Zoeller and Jon Costas from the beginning that I would remain neutral unless Governor Daniels openly endorsed a candidate.  Last week, when Governor Daniels did just that, I enthusiastically endorsed Jon Costas.  I did it because Jon Costas will be great AG and the Governor wants him on the ticket for geographical balance.  I told Jon Costas that I was sure that I could deliver one vote at least.  I trust that the other 33 delegates from Howard County will view his candidacy favorably.</p>
<p>I would humbly suggest that everyone take a deep breath and enjoy this experience of a contested convention.  It should be fun and our Party can become stronger because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: scratchman</title>
		<link>http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/14/the-ag-race-rumor-has-it/#comment-3314</link>
		<dc:creator>scratchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chris took the words out of my mouth--i don't have anything against (or at this point, for) either candidate, but the manner with wich the "institution" is attempting to garner votes (at least indy's) is despicable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chris took the words out of my mouth&#8211;i don&#8217;t have anything against (or at this point, for) either candidate, but the manner with wich the &#8220;institution&#8221; is attempting to garner votes (at least indy&#8217;s) is despicable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you catch the WISH TV interview last night where Costas said the Gov's endorsement was like throwing gasoline on the fire? I think that pretty much sums it up. Although I think he was thinking it was a good thing. Both AG candidates are fine upstanding men who are caught up in an unfortunate situation that neither has total control of. Unfortunately for them, the outside sources who get involved take us away from the original democratic intentions for the convention- that being a good political debate and a healthy contest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you catch the WISH TV interview last night where Costas said the Gov&#8217;s endorsement was like throwing gasoline on the fire? I think that pretty much sums it up. Although I think he was thinking it was a good thing. Both AG candidates are fine upstanding men who are caught up in an unfortunate situation that neither has total control of. Unfortunately for them, the outside sources who get involved take us away from the original democratic intentions for the convention- that being a good political debate and a healthy contest.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't speak for Jon, nor will I, but I think people would agree that strong armed tactics, should they be going on as you describe, are not called for in this election.  One district doesn't mean Costas doesn't have the support, it doesn't mean that Zoeller does.  Both would make fine AG’s.  As far as progress, I see progress as a whole, progress in the form of not just counting votes to get elected and doing things to help in this cause, that's not leadership, but progress after the votes have been counted.  Leadership is hard, especially after an election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak for Jon, nor will I, but I think people would agree that strong armed tactics, should they be going on as you describe, are not called for in this election.  One district doesn&#8217;t mean Costas doesn&#8217;t have the support, it doesn&#8217;t mean that Zoeller does.  Both would make fine AG’s.  As far as progress, I see progress as a whole, progress in the form of not just counting votes to get elected and doing things to help in this cause, that&#8217;s not leadership, but progress after the votes have been counted.  Leadership is hard, especially after an election.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's with the continual "negative shots or smears" line, exactly? Tom John is doing what Tom John is doing, and loyalty oaths are draconian and disgusting. Do you disagree? Wouldn't you prefer that Jon Costas not need Tom John to strong-arm the Indianapolis contingent in order to win?

And how does all of the support for Greg Zoeller coming out of the 3rd District figure into Jon Costas having strong support all across northern Indiana?

The Governor has a lot of problems down this way (his undervote percentage in the recent primary was disturbingly significant), but that's a discussion for another time (and I'd be glad to discuss it with you elsewhere if you're genuinely interested).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s with the continual &#8220;negative shots or smears&#8221; line, exactly? Tom John is doing what Tom John is doing, and loyalty oaths are draconian and disgusting. Do you disagree? Wouldn&#8217;t you prefer that Jon Costas not need Tom John to strong-arm the Indianapolis contingent in order to win?</p>
<p>And how does all of the support for Greg Zoeller coming out of the 3rd District figure into Jon Costas having strong support all across northern Indiana?</p>
<p>The Governor has a lot of problems down this way (his undervote percentage in the recent primary was disturbingly significant), but that&#8217;s a discussion for another time (and I&#8217;d be glad to discuss it with you elsewhere if you&#8217;re genuinely interested).</p>
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		<title>By: daltonsbriefs</title>
		<link>http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/05/14/the-ag-race-rumor-has-it/#comment-3310</link>
		<dc:creator>daltonsbriefs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, I can't speak much to why southern Indiana would have a beef with the Governor, he's actually becoming more and more liked in NW Indiana.  Major Moves has created so much construction activity that major unions are truly torn on whether they really want a democrat.

All this and he hasn't had to back down a bit on his stance against increasing the unions' power over their employees.  For those of us in NW Indiana, this is good news.

His 1 percent property tax cap was a master stroke of genius and he will gain tons of votes because people believe he cares.

You may know the process better than I, but I have a hard time beleiving that any one man, Tom John in this case, can have enough power to control the destiny of the entire state.  Jon Costas has strong support all across Northern and Central Indiana and I guess the naive side of me is kinda confused as to why Southern Indiana would have any problem with him either.

Mr. Zoeller was here in NW Indiana today, no one took negative shots or smears, Jon wouldn't ever allow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I can&#8217;t speak much to why southern Indiana would have a beef with the Governor, he&#8217;s actually becoming more and more liked in NW Indiana.  Major Moves has created so much construction activity that major unions are truly torn on whether they really want a democrat.</p>
<p>All this and he hasn&#8217;t had to back down a bit on his stance against increasing the unions&#8217; power over their employees.  For those of us in NW Indiana, this is good news.</p>
<p>His 1 percent property tax cap was a master stroke of genius and he will gain tons of votes because people believe he cares.</p>
<p>You may know the process better than I, but I have a hard time beleiving that any one man, Tom John in this case, can have enough power to control the destiny of the entire state.  Jon Costas has strong support all across Northern and Central Indiana and I guess the naive side of me is kinda confused as to why Southern Indiana would have any problem with him either.</p>
<p>Mr. Zoeller was here in NW Indiana today, no one took negative shots or smears, Jon wouldn&#8217;t ever allow it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are party organizations, and then there is strong-arming and loyalty oath nonsense. One can have the former without requiring the extreme measures of the latter.

And I do very much have a problem with a contested convention being decided because Tom John has decided to rig the process by demanding draconian and absurd loyalty oaths from the delegates that he is appointing. Why should my delegates want to go all the way to Indy to participate in a contested convention if some Indianapolis good old boys are going to try and rig the thing with strong arm tactics and loyalty oaths?

Republican base voters down this way don't appreciate Indianapolis much, and they won't take kindly to a candidate that they think was forced upon them by Indianapolis (let alone Mitch Daniels, who has his own very serious base problems down here).

And when I speak of the Governor making "progress" in the aforementioned post, I'm talking about improving his electoral situation, not advancing the state or helping county political organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are party organizations, and then there is strong-arming and loyalty oath nonsense. One can have the former without requiring the extreme measures of the latter.</p>
<p>And I do very much have a problem with a contested convention being decided because Tom John has decided to rig the process by demanding draconian and absurd loyalty oaths from the delegates that he is appointing. Why should my delegates want to go all the way to Indy to participate in a contested convention if some Indianapolis good old boys are going to try and rig the thing with strong arm tactics and loyalty oaths?</p>
<p>Republican base voters down this way don&#8217;t appreciate Indianapolis much, and they won&#8217;t take kindly to a candidate that they think was forced upon them by Indianapolis (let alone Mitch Daniels, who has his own very serious base problems down here).</p>
<p>And when I speak of the Governor making &#8220;progress&#8221; in the aforementioned post, I&#8217;m talking about improving his electoral situation, not advancing the state or helping county political organizations.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sound like your still dividing the state.  I disagree with the no progress comment.  Come on up here Scott and we'll show you some progress.  It might not have the stamp of Mitch Daniels on it but let me tell you first hand it would not have gotten done without some leadership in the Governor's office.  Try working with Lake County politics, it was front stage on CNN come election night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sound like your still dividing the state.  I disagree with the no progress comment.  Come on up here Scott and we&#8217;ll show you some progress.  It might not have the stamp of Mitch Daniels on it but let me tell you first hand it would not have gotten done without some leadership in the Governor&#8217;s office.  Try working with Lake County politics, it was front stage on CNN come election night.</p>
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