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	<title>Comments on: McCain/Palin Take Lead With Post Convention Bounce</title>
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		<title>By: Joel Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some bounces are short-termed and some stay there. The reason that it is called a bounce is not because it comes back down, but because it goes up at a particular time (i.e. right after their convention). My recollection is that Bush 41's bounce never came back down when running in 1988.

harldelos, you seem to argue things two ways. One the one hand you say that "Palin/McCain might be a winning ticket, McCain/Palin much less so" but then you argue that "combining Palin and McCain, you get a good team, but if he's dead....That's going to make voters apprehensive about voting for Palin, because they have no idea who Palin's VPOTUS would be." Decide what you think here, man.

I think it is ridiculous to think that McCain is punting on this year. I think it ridiculous to think that McCain could be "told" that he couldn't have Liberman. People have told McCain a lot of things over the years and he does whatever he wants to do. Even not liking some of his positions, you have to admire that part of McCain's character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some bounces are short-termed and some stay there. The reason that it is called a bounce is not because it comes back down, but because it goes up at a particular time (i.e. right after their convention). My recollection is that Bush 41&#8217;s bounce never came back down when running in 1988.</p>
<p>harldelos, you seem to argue things two ways. One the one hand you say that &#8220;Palin/McCain might be a winning ticket, McCain/Palin much less so&#8221; but then you argue that &#8220;combining Palin and McCain, you get a good team, but if he&#8217;s dead&#8230;.That&#8217;s going to make voters apprehensive about voting for Palin, because they have no idea who Palin&#8217;s VPOTUS would be.&#8221; Decide what you think here, man.</p>
<p>I think it is ridiculous to think that McCain is punting on this year. I think it ridiculous to think that McCain could be &#8220;told&#8221; that he couldn&#8217;t have Liberman. People have told McCain a lot of things over the years and he does whatever he wants to do. Even not liking some of his positions, you have to admire that part of McCain&#8217;s character.</p>
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		<title>By: harldelos</title>
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		<dc:creator>harldelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a &lt;i&gt;reason&lt;/i&gt; why it's called a "bounce". The numbers go up because people are excited, and the excitement wears off, and the numbers go back down again. The question is HOW MUCH they will go down. 

Sarah Palin has done a lot to unite the GOP. I thought it would take Hillary on the Democratic ticket to do that; obviously, I was wrong. But neither party has a majority; it's the independents who will decide this election, and their response to Palin has been a lot less favorable than the GOP base. 

And Chris is right: the more people attack Palin, the better off the GOP is. It's not just because she's a woman, but she's also a representative of "the great flyover", so people who live in small towns and people who drive battered pickups 45 miles to the nearest supermarket, and people who think it'd be interesting to go moose hunting are going to resent attacks on Governor Palin. 

And so are people who think judgment is more important than tenure, when it comes to experience. Unfortunately, THIS segment is likely to be apprehensive about Senator McCain. 

I think Palin/McCain might well be a winning ticket, McCain/Palin much less so. The census bureau says a 72-year-old has a 10% chance of dying within 4 years, and most 72-year-olds are retired. Put them in a high-stress job, specify that they've already had multiple sieges of cancer, especially skin cancer, and it's surely a lot higher than 10%. 

So they're going to think, yeah, combining Palin and McCain, you get a good team, but if he's dead, you lose any semblance of foreign affairs experience, and McCain keeps stressing that it's an increasingly dangerous world we live in. That's going to make voters apprehensive about voting for Palin, because they have no idea who Palin's VPOTUS would be. 

There are a lot of reasons to support Palin, and a lot of reasons to support McCain, but they aren't the same reasons. There's a good reason why candidates for POTUS always pick a running mate who doesn't outshine them, and by violating that rule, the whole thing looks like that Saturday Night Live skit for a combination mouthwash AND floor wax. 

Maybe he's decided that 2008 is hopeless. If they play this right, they have a good chance of putting Sarah Palin in the White House in 2012. 

But I wonder if perhaps McCain got royally POed when he was told he couldn't have Lieberman as his running mate, and he nominated Palin as a way to get back at the right-wingers. I'll teach them, he thought: a woman they will love and everyone else will hate. 

And the convention will refuse to accept her, and will take Lieberman, after all. 

But Palin didn't realize that she was supposed to be unacceptable to conservatives, and ended up foiling McCain's scheme. 

Or not. This is certainly turning out to be an interesting election!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a <i>reason</i> why it&#8217;s called a &#8220;bounce&#8221;. The numbers go up because people are excited, and the excitement wears off, and the numbers go back down again. The question is HOW MUCH they will go down. </p>
<p>Sarah Palin has done a lot to unite the GOP. I thought it would take Hillary on the Democratic ticket to do that; obviously, I was wrong. But neither party has a majority; it&#8217;s the independents who will decide this election, and their response to Palin has been a lot less favorable than the GOP base. </p>
<p>And Chris is right: the more people attack Palin, the better off the GOP is. It&#8217;s not just because she&#8217;s a woman, but she&#8217;s also a representative of &#8220;the great flyover&#8221;, so people who live in small towns and people who drive battered pickups 45 miles to the nearest supermarket, and people who think it&#8217;d be interesting to go moose hunting are going to resent attacks on Governor Palin. </p>
<p>And so are people who think judgment is more important than tenure, when it comes to experience. Unfortunately, THIS segment is likely to be apprehensive about Senator McCain. </p>
<p>I think Palin/McCain might well be a winning ticket, McCain/Palin much less so. The census bureau says a 72-year-old has a 10% chance of dying within 4 years, and most 72-year-olds are retired. Put them in a high-stress job, specify that they&#8217;ve already had multiple sieges of cancer, especially skin cancer, and it&#8217;s surely a lot higher than 10%. </p>
<p>So they&#8217;re going to think, yeah, combining Palin and McCain, you get a good team, but if he&#8217;s dead, you lose any semblance of foreign affairs experience, and McCain keeps stressing that it&#8217;s an increasingly dangerous world we live in. That&#8217;s going to make voters apprehensive about voting for Palin, because they have no idea who Palin&#8217;s VPOTUS would be. </p>
<p>There are a lot of reasons to support Palin, and a lot of reasons to support McCain, but they aren&#8217;t the same reasons. There&#8217;s a good reason why candidates for POTUS always pick a running mate who doesn&#8217;t outshine them, and by violating that rule, the whole thing looks like that Saturday Night Live skit for a combination mouthwash AND floor wax. </p>
<p>Maybe he&#8217;s decided that 2008 is hopeless. If they play this right, they have a good chance of putting Sarah Palin in the White House in 2012. </p>
<p>But I wonder if perhaps McCain got royally POed when he was told he couldn&#8217;t have Lieberman as his running mate, and he nominated Palin as a way to get back at the right-wingers. I&#8217;ll teach them, he thought: a woman they will love and everyone else will hate. </p>
<p>And the convention will refuse to accept her, and will take Lieberman, after all. </p>
<p>But Palin didn&#8217;t realize that she was supposed to be unacceptable to conservatives, and ended up foiling McCain&#8217;s scheme. </p>
<p>Or not. This is certainly turning out to be an interesting election!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hedges</title>
		<link>http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2008/09/06/mccainpalin-take-lead-with-post-convention-bounce/#comment-5476</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hedges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love reading all of the letters to the editor that sound alike in their criticism of Sarah Palin (i.e. she shouldn't serve as vice president because a woman needs to stay at home with the kids).  The Post-Tribune has been filled with them lately.

My wife and her friends are all buzzing about Sarah Palin's selection (and McCain's campaign pledge to keep taxes low -- many of her co-workers receive 1099 forms instead of W2s).

Throw in the misogyny exhibited by some on the Democratic side and they've gotten fired up in wanting to support a woman who might become the first female president in 2012.

Note to Democrats: keep those letters about how women should stay at home coming into the newspaper!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love reading all of the letters to the editor that sound alike in their criticism of Sarah Palin (i.e. she shouldn&#8217;t serve as vice president because a woman needs to stay at home with the kids).  The Post-Tribune has been filled with them lately.</p>
<p>My wife and her friends are all buzzing about Sarah Palin&#8217;s selection (and McCain&#8217;s campaign pledge to keep taxes low &#8212; many of her co-workers receive 1099 forms instead of W2s).</p>
<p>Throw in the misogyny exhibited by some on the Democratic side and they&#8217;ve gotten fired up in wanting to support a woman who might become the first female president in 2012.</p>
<p>Note to Democrats: keep those letters about how women should stay at home coming into the newspaper!</p>
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